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A "Portal" movie would be awesome. I saw the fan made movie. Nice, but it really doesn't fit with the story. Sigorney Weaver should play the part of Chelle.

I agree with you..
I always wanted to play this game but i never had the time to download it
i checked out game rankings and this game ranked 3rd...
then i decided to give it a shot, and wow.! this game rocks!
what i loved the most about this game is the storyline, though some dialogues are repetitive (p-3 portable only). this is the very first game i ever played with an entertainingly long story. ( Oh I love the Plot! )

now to battle.
i like it, it's a lot like final fantasy XIII ( which i totally loved ) i don't have experiences with P3 on PS2 even though i have that console...
and wait.! did the author just say the battle "sucks"!? wew... the in game battle is designed for the players to have a more strategic feel of the game... if he likes hack and slash , rpg , MOBA. (whatever) then why play this game??...

Opinions are a thing on their own. In fact, they are fully apart from being fully developed conceptions of the world. Yours, unfortunately, means nothing. Do not speak of that which you know little about.

You're ignorant preference for mainstream games like Mass Effect 3 is sickening. This game, which is far grom perfect, is not worth being called such. What about the deluge of DLC? What about the lack of meaning of your choices? What about the poor, unsatisfying ending? Greg Noe, your time is over.

"If a new game fell in price 75% in six months we would be on to something. This is what happens in the PC world now and developers and publishers are both successful."

First, this relates directly to what I've been saying all along. The existence of a healthy used market helps keep new game prices high. PC game prices drop to almost nothing within 6 months because they have no resale value. Nobody wants to play $50 for a game that drops to $0 in value after they open it. So they simply won't buy them......unless the price is lower. Not being able to resell a game forces publishers to drop their price. I make my living selling used equipment. It pisses off the manufacturer. But they know that if their equipment didn't command high resale, that same gear wouldn't command high retail. It's simple economics. Which brand of car would you be willing to pay more for? The one with zero resale value or the one with great resale value? It's a no brainer. So, if they eliminate used game, you can guarantee the price of new will drop hard and fast.

Second. The PC developers and publishers "are successful"? This is kind of vague I think. We've seen more publishers and developers expanding to, or completing transitioning to consoles. Mostly due to piracy and price curves. Also, they've made pretty significant moves toward subscription and microtransaction models. If they remove the price curve advantage of consoles, I bet a lot will go back to PC.

Overall great post though. Glad to finally hear someone who agrees with me. Let them do it! I can't wait to see what happens.

I probably won't buy a next generation system if they make it not play used games. In that way, it would ruin renting, borrowing games, etc. Things that I've grown to EXPECT on my consoles, and NOT my PC. That's the big difference here. An educated review helps, like you've produced, but overall, people will still be upset.

Anything that I buy should be mine to do what I want with, as long as I don't break the law - - On Console games, because that's what I've grown to expect.

Now, what you're proposing is certainly interesting. To me, however, it's just an excuse to keep PC gaming. I won't have to upgrade my PC for awhile, and Steam just keeps churning out goodies. I don't think consoles will be able to catch up. The thing keeping them above water are people that started on consoles and literally hate the PC's peripherals.

Buuuut - maybe Billy Bob decides that Microsoft is full o' shiet and decides that he's already got a computer, so why doesn't he try the new Modern Warfare 4 on it? Billy Bob is surprised, as it's a different game, but the same game. It takes getting used to, but he gets used to it. He bought the game on the cheap, and the game runs, blah blah.

I have a 360 for my wife and I to play. If it weren't for my wife, I wouldn't own any consoles.

I honestly think that you have a good idea, Greg. I just think it's going to be too late.

When I was devising the editorial in my head, I thought about using this as a reason. Would save me a lot of money if I didn't buy any more consoles in the future.

If you didn't take the time to make your own characters, have a problem with manually leveling up your characters (god forbid they don't include an auto-level button, too much work in clicking through four menus when you level), and want to be a badass right from the start, then don't play old RPGs. You are not a badass, you are weak. Sure, you are above average warriors compared to some, but you can't go out and kill dragons in your first few levels. You have to prove yourself and become stronger in order to achieve that.

You seem to be incredibly lazy, and I don't know if you just haven't played RPGs with customization before or what, but it seems insane to me that you are complaining about the average amount of customization available in ID2. Creating your own team, leveling them as you see fit, and watching them grow as you progress are HUGE parts of the game. Let's go through the list of things you hated:

1) No auto-level.

Auto-level would be a terrible idea. Unlike RPGs today, you can't have a single build work for every situation. Your group of 1-6 can work off of each other, and you can't have one auto-level for an archetype because it may cause a lot of unnecessary overlap with another character (for example, dumping points in intimidate for 3 characters would be a poor choice).

2) Little guidance.

Again, the game doesn't hold your hand. But with a bit of adventuring you can find everything just fine. If not, check out a guide, fine. The game isn't going to have big arrows pointing you to your destination, you don't get babied through ID2.

3) Goblin grinding.

You are not a badass. That is, at the start you are relatively weak. You don't just go to dragon-slaying and ogre bashing from level one. That would be a very poor sense of progression. There are still boss units in ID2, a wide assortment of enemies, and much more that you can't fully experience in one hour. But ID2 wasn't made to be a one hour game, so I suppose you had a flawed review from the start.

4) Too much stuff to click on and assign.
5) Couldn't select different options for party members when in battle.

Which one is it? You have plenty of options, but not enough? If you tried clicking on a single party member while in battle, you would have seen that you can have them operate independently from the group. Didn't know that was a complicated concept.

6) Didn't know about the pause button.

Error between the chair and the keyboard.

7) Never felt immersed in the game.

Your fault for not customizing your characters or caring about them. The game can't FORCE you to care about it, you have to try. Sorry, error again between the same space as before.

8) Too much to manage.

There is an average amount of customization for your character. There really isn't that much, and its just enough to be satisfying. How you can be overwhelmed by the level up system is beyond me. The character creation screen, sure, its a bit much. Take 15-20 minutes and you can get a solid crew. If that's too much time, then you should not play this game.

9) No cool loot.

Same thing with the goblins. You aren't going to get a staff that summons Demons from the sky in the first few minutes. QQ.

TL;DR You give this game zero justice because of your own laziness. Go play ME and get your hand held through it and auto-level up your way to being a total badass in the first few levels if that's what you want.

Its a good thing there are SOME intelligent people here. Personally, I love Persona 3. I named my character randomly after the mc in FF Tactics A2 and Death Note ; Luso Yagami. I also think his blue hair is awesome. I'm in love. I think Persona 4 did it better fighting/grinding/dungeon-wise, but I liked 3's Social Links and story more. 4's bores me with its constant "I gotta face myself and be who I am!"

just as a reference as to where i'm coming from, i stumbled across this article when i googled "can you control your team in persona 3". I played p4 first, and i absolutely loved it. the writing was good, the combat, while not innovative by SMT standards, was masterfully exocuted, and i enjoyed the social link system. i made it to naota's dungeon bedore i had to give my ps2 back, but i loved what i played. so when i got a new ps2, i thought, hey, i've heard some good things about 3, and i loved 4 and what i'd played of 1, so why not. i got it, and was so disapointed i almost cried.
1, you only control minato? i'm sorry but... why? seriously, i'm all for the SMT tradition of not letting the MC die but... it defies logic. i loved final fantasy 13, i was a BIT miffed when i found out only the main character could be controled, but it made sense as i went through and the combat system evolved with the paradigm system. but persona 3 had NO such excuse. it's a simple turn based rpg with a variation of the push batt

Everything you disliked about IWD2 were it's greatest strengths. Making your own A-Team of D&D heroes is a blast. When I played through this game (10 years ago, when it was relevant) I simply 'Imagined' personalities for all my characters. I'm suddenly nostalgic for the adventures of my made up PCs Lord Doomhammer, Nameless One, Ice Princess, Nargh, Brakka and Thraxus.

I would not recommend you bother going back to replay this game at any point. It's an endless dungeon crawl that plays solely off the strength of it's combat system, and requires its player to have a decent grasp of Dungeons and Dragons rules. Loads of fun back in 2002, awfully dated today. Play Dragon Age 1 instead. It's the same play style, but with a cleaner rules system and upgraded graphics.