I respect your opinion and I am not gonna bitch about it. People like P3 because of the dialogues and long story. BUt one thing you're correct about is the friggin' grinding. I don't mind the gameplay as I am a real fan of Turn-Based games and I like the animation as well. They could've made Tartarus like the ones in P4 as I think P4 is superior in every aspect of this game.
I've not played ID2 yet, but plan to. I played both original BG games back in the day and ID1 a few years later, very much enjoying them all. I actually liked the ID model better as you get to customize your entire party, rather than just the protagonist and you don't have to much with all the whining as your choices don't match up perfectly with the goals of your crew. Much of the BG games is spent trying to keep your team happy and not abandoning you, rather than progressing with the missions you find interesting.
If you didn't create your own team and populate them with your own ideas of who they were etc, and if you didn't know to pause during combat, you basically missed out on 90% of what makes these games great/function. That's too bad. I would highly recommend ToEE, as I enjoyed it probably more than I did the original ID. However, based on your experience in ID2, I'm thinking even ToEE may not be a good fit for you.
You idiot,your stupidity dont appreciate RPG games. I you want easy games, you better play your a** . Think of it, P3P is Atlus's best selling game in 2009, the game got also awards. Therefore, majority wins, gamers love P3P and "SOME" are not. Those gamers who dont love this game and not appreciate it, you guys are the true sucks.
I really wouldn't be surprised if the slow start is intentional with the goal of limiting players further and causing a difference of opinions, just for the fun of it.
You could have at least gotten to a battle! But it's curious that you both stopped before anything even started (at one point or another). Says something about the game's pacing. You're already a Game Maker-made JRPG indie game, your audience is small enough, don't lose a percentage of players early on to a slow beginning with HUGE pauses in between dialog.
Devs should have written out the town exploration part at the beginning of the game, have Jordan and gang burst in right away with their accusations. There's nothing you learn there that couldn't have been figured out later on down the line.
I entirely agree that it's hard to get past the slow-moving intro segment. I couldn't when I first played it years ago, and stopped again this time, before forcing myself through.
I agree with this. P3 is even easier than Nocturne. The game is hard, so what? It shows that JRPGs are not only heal and attack. It lets the player think before making you a move as mentioned by above commentator. Tartarus is not a big deal. If the wandering around is quite irritating for some of you, you can just hurry to the stairs. The shadows are small enough to quickly evade them. As for grinding, you can grind after reaching a sub-boss floor. The teleporter at the entrance is your best friend at this case. As for the non-gameplay issue a.k.a the Social Links, you do know you can just skip the non-important parts if you don't like talking to people, as this game is a mix of REAL LIFE simulation and dungeon-crawling RPG. That much said, since the reviewer has a Persona 4. I advise that you play the game. It's battle system is improved with teammates able to be commanded and the dungeon floors are not changing though the map is not recorded when you switch to another dungeon. I hope you give P4 sometime and you might as well like it.
One of your main complaints is about the game being hard and requiring grinding. When do you ever have to grind, really? I usually only explore the floors while I'm climbing to the next boss and the fights I get into are usually enough. I'm playing on normal difficulty and I don't find it to be punishing at all. Sure, sometimes you die, but that's normal. After I died to a boss I usually figured out a strategy to beat him. SMT games are more about strategy than grinding really, some people don't seem to understand that. Fuse better personas or figure out the boss' pattern/weaknesses and you should be fine. Buff skills(for your party) and debuff skills(against the enemy) are also there for a reason, it WILL help you in battles, but people are usually just too lazy with things like that since most popular rpgs around here only require you to attack like mad, which certainly isn't the case with SMT games. Also use your good items, you know, the ones that recovers your whole party's hp/sp or reflects magics/attacks. You don't need them later, you need them NOW. This isn't like Final Fantasy where you stock up megaelixirs and never use them in the entire game because of everything being too easy.
And the game over screen, seriously? Ever tried hitting the start button? You can skip it. What the hell was that complaint for?
Otherwise, yeah, the game can get repetitive. Even I, being a big fan of the franchise as a whole, found it to be tiring sometimes. I usually do something different and come back to it later, because it's worth it in my opinion. Of course you will find the story confusing in the beginning, it's supposed to be clarified as the game progresses towards the end. That's what I and many people like about these stories, the mystery behind them.
Anyway, I can see how this isn't a rpg for everybody, and the complaints about the lenght and repetitiveness are legitimate, but the rest of the complaints are nonsense imo. I didn't find it hard, in my opinion the difficulty is ideal. Not too easy, not too punishing. I love Chrono Trigger too, also one of my favorite games of all times, but I always wished it was a bit more challenging.
I respect your opinion and I am not gonna bitch about it. People like P3 because of the dialogues and long story. BUt one thing you're correct about is the friggin' grinding. I don't mind the gameplay as I am a real fan of Turn-Based games and I like the animation as well. They could've made Tartarus like the ones in P4 as I think P4 is superior in every aspect of this game.
yeah yeah if Persona 3 is bad so what is good?!
well some people just cant stand mature stories ya know
I've not played ID2 yet, but plan to. I played both original BG games back in the day and ID1 a few years later, very much enjoying them all. I actually liked the ID model better as you get to customize your entire party, rather than just the protagonist and you don't have to much with all the whining as your choices don't match up perfectly with the goals of your crew. Much of the BG games is spent trying to keep your team happy and not abandoning you, rather than progressing with the missions you find interesting.
If you didn't create your own team and populate them with your own ideas of who they were etc, and if you didn't know to pause during combat, you basically missed out on 90% of what makes these games great/function. That's too bad. I would highly recommend ToEE, as I enjoyed it probably more than I did the original ID. However, based on your experience in ID2, I'm thinking even ToEE may not be a good fit for you.
so in conclusion you're just a little babby who can't take REEL jrpgs like atlus games and stuff
kk
Complainging about nudity? wtf
I remember beating this thing with my friend. We were 6. It isn't that hard, but you need to learn where all the enemies are, that's all.
You idiot,your stupidity dont appreciate RPG games. I you want easy games, you better play your a** . Think of it, P3P is Atlus's best selling game in 2009, the game got also awards. Therefore, majority wins, gamers love P3P and "SOME" are not. Those gamers who dont love this game and not appreciate it, you guys are the true sucks.
These are impressions, the only requirement for contribution to this column is that you played the game for any length of time.
I really wouldn't be surprised if the slow start is intentional with the goal of limiting players further and causing a difference of opinions, just for the fun of it.
It DOES start really slow, and it's not a proper review, but an impression. Trying a game and saying that it isn't for you is a legitimate impression.
I can't tell what you're objecting to, Paul. This is not a good review. You don't explain what you dislike and you quit 7 minutes into the game.
I will just sit back and trust you'll play the whole thing and tell us how it went. :P
You could have at least gotten to a battle! But it's curious that you both stopped before anything even started (at one point or another). Says something about the game's pacing. You're already a Game Maker-made JRPG indie game, your audience is small enough, don't lose a percentage of players early on to a slow beginning with HUGE pauses in between dialog.
Devs should have written out the town exploration part at the beginning of the game, have Jordan and gang burst in right away with their accusations. There's nothing you learn there that couldn't have been figured out later on down the line.
I entirely agree that it's hard to get past the slow-moving intro segment. I couldn't when I first played it years ago, and stopped again this time, before forcing myself through.
I can't believe there are still so many comments on this game about how dysfunctional Greg must be for not loving this game.
Let me enlighten everyone that is complaining: This is an opinion piece.
So, don't be childish, and scream "your opinions are WRONG!" because this is ONE MAN's views of the game.
It is also a logical fallacy to call someone "Butt hurt" or anything else that is completely meant to be insulting. Let me show you:
"Persona 3 sucks."
"You're an assmunch!"
"...but Person 3 still sucks."
- What did we accomplish there? Nothing.
Also, even it went this way:
"Persona 3 sucks."
"Persona 3 does not suck, because of (reasons)."
- Neither of these points are true. They are only thoughts, opinions; aka, NOT facts.
Thnak you.
I agree with this. P3 is even easier than Nocturne. The game is hard, so what? It shows that JRPGs are not only heal and attack. It lets the player think before making you a move as mentioned by above commentator. Tartarus is not a big deal. If the wandering around is quite irritating for some of you, you can just hurry to the stairs. The shadows are small enough to quickly evade them. As for grinding, you can grind after reaching a sub-boss floor. The teleporter at the entrance is your best friend at this case. As for the non-gameplay issue a.k.a the Social Links, you do know you can just skip the non-important parts if you don't like talking to people, as this game is a mix of REAL LIFE simulation and dungeon-crawling RPG. That much said, since the reviewer has a Persona 4. I advise that you play the game. It's battle system is improved with teammates able to be commanded and the dungeon floors are not changing though the map is not recorded when you switch to another dungeon. I hope you give P4 sometime and you might as well like it.
Yeah,
how dare you!
This game rocked, how dare you give it a six
Look at me im on block 6 and my player level is 99 the problem is your lvl
You are only one hit because of your level! c'mon think men think!
One of your main complaints is about the game being hard and requiring grinding. When do you ever have to grind, really? I usually only explore the floors while I'm climbing to the next boss and the fights I get into are usually enough. I'm playing on normal difficulty and I don't find it to be punishing at all. Sure, sometimes you die, but that's normal. After I died to a boss I usually figured out a strategy to beat him. SMT games are more about strategy than grinding really, some people don't seem to understand that. Fuse better personas or figure out the boss' pattern/weaknesses and you should be fine. Buff skills(for your party) and debuff skills(against the enemy) are also there for a reason, it WILL help you in battles, but people are usually just too lazy with things like that since most popular rpgs around here only require you to attack like mad, which certainly isn't the case with SMT games. Also use your good items, you know, the ones that recovers your whole party's hp/sp or reflects magics/attacks. You don't need them later, you need them NOW. This isn't like Final Fantasy where you stock up megaelixirs and never use them in the entire game because of everything being too easy.
And the game over screen, seriously? Ever tried hitting the start button? You can skip it. What the hell was that complaint for?
Otherwise, yeah, the game can get repetitive. Even I, being a big fan of the franchise as a whole, found it to be tiring sometimes. I usually do something different and come back to it later, because it's worth it in my opinion. Of course you will find the story confusing in the beginning, it's supposed to be clarified as the game progresses towards the end. That's what I and many people like about these stories, the mystery behind them.
Anyway, I can see how this isn't a rpg for everybody, and the complaints about the lenght and repetitiveness are legitimate, but the rest of the complaints are nonsense imo. I didn't find it hard, in my opinion the difficulty is ideal. Not too easy, not too punishing. I love Chrono Trigger too, also one of my favorite games of all times, but I always wished it was a bit more challenging.
If he doesn't reply, could i possibly have the code? :D
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You won, I sent you an email, please write back so I know it's valid. Then I'll send you the code!
I'm not going to make up some reason why I should be picked. I just want the god damn game. Many thanks!